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Tuesday, March 31, 2015
An Ugly Resurrection
Here is another older pistol, dated "P11052011". A .50 cal DOM steel barrel, 1 inch OD, .50 inch ID, no seams, cost was $1US per inch. The two slab side plates contain the action and an internal coil spring for the hammer. The trigger rubs on the coil spring which pushes it into lock. If you recognize the front sight, holler back. Walnut scraps for the grip. Today I added the hammer cup and tightened the hammer coil spring a bit. Two large 10-32 screws go through the barrel plug and hold the barrel in place.
Left side plate. You must remember this was made back when I was just getting started, shown on a website called www.garagegunsmithing.com. This pistol is not to pleasant to look at but it does get the job done.
Hammer down on a piece of fish tank tubing. The tubing is so that the TV baddies can be gotten rid of (dry firing allowed) thunk, there goes another one. Grip has been stippled, a really rough attempt but it does really help in the gripping. The 3 screws at the rear hold the F-shaped grip into the frame.
Hammer full cock. This grip shape points nicely.
Smooth Bore, .50 cal. Rear sight is a block of steel soldered to barrel, tapped with 4 each 6-32 screws to mount a peep sight, not moveable. Front sight (the smaller brass piece) is threaded into the larger brass piece to adjust elevation.
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Thursday, March 26, 2015
Older Lock fixed up for use.
Here is an older lock, dated "P12032011" for the serial number.
For a really long while it was not functioning correctly and today it is now fixed.
This lock is quite smooth in trigger movement with no scraping or roughness.
It cannot be guessed when it will release.
It is a crude copy of one that can be found online. Wade Ingrhams Info.
This lock is different in that it has a half-cock position while Wade's does not.
Trigger will be reshaped and curved, later.
Half cock position.
Half cock position, insides.
Left to right: Hammer with shim washers, sear that slides on that shelf below it, brass link, trigger and spring, hammer spring mounting block threaded 8-32 US.
Full cock position. Cover plate.
Fired position. Hammer pushes the sear out of the way during cocking.
Half cock position. Note the link.
Fired position. I am holding the trigger to the rear most position.
A rough guess as how the hammer spring may look. It would attach to the back of the lock with that 8-32 screw. Obviously the trigger is way too big.
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For a really long while it was not functioning correctly and today it is now fixed.
This lock is quite smooth in trigger movement with no scraping or roughness.
It cannot be guessed when it will release.
It is a crude copy of one that can be found online. Wade Ingrhams Info.
This lock is different in that it has a half-cock position while Wade's does not.
Half cock position.
Left to right: Hammer with shim washers, sear that slides on that shelf below it, brass link, trigger and spring, hammer spring mounting block threaded 8-32 US.
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Tuesday, March 17, 2015
12ga Upgraded
This one is a 12ga black powder muzzle loading slug shooter. Barrel is a 12ga unchambered barrel. A M20x2.5 plug was installed. Then was shot several times that way only to break the grip at the top. This one seems to be everyone's dream, a lot of folks who first saw it just wanted to hold it and point it. Kinda like shooting the villains on TV.
Yes, it's big.
Lock innards. Since this picture was taken, the trigger was reshaped (bent), rearward. Safety pin shaped trigger+sear spring holds both together and forces the sear into the hammer notches.
How the barrel mounts. There are two 10-32 bolts through each plate and through the barrel plug. So other barrels could be installed if desired.
Barrel mounted. Serial # is P plus the date (MO/DA/YR). P09032011.
Mar/17/2015
Got bored and changed the stock to a Cherry stock.
It's not finished but this is the general shape. Trigger reshaped, flash cup added to hammer.
Nipple is replaced. Cheek piece outlined roughly. Mounting hardware countersunk onto the wood.
Mar/22/2015 Sunday
Got to shoot loads of old BB's.
Used 50gr of 777 FFg, plastic wad, over-wad card to hold BB's in.
I have no idea where they went, out there somewhere.
Began to shrink the wrist area.
Things to do: Reshape the stock even more.
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Mar/17/2015
Got bored and changed the stock to a Cherry stock.
It's not finished but this is the general shape. Trigger reshaped, flash cup added to hammer.Mar/22/2015 Sunday
Got to shoot loads of old BB's.
Used 50gr of 777 FFg, plastic wad, over-wad card to hold BB's in.
I have no idea where they went, out there somewhere.
Began to shrink the wrist area.
Things to do: Reshape the stock even more.
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Wednesday, March 4, 2015
Jonathan Browning Barreled Underhammer
This one was created a while back and in another state, July/13/2012.
I thought you'd get a kick out this design.
The .50 caliber barrel as purchased at an Oregon gun show (PDX) $80 OTD, no plug, no sights.
Trying to find all of the parts to recreate an original, made the decision to make it into an underhammer, was quite easy.
See, no plug (snail). Two seal areas, three if you count the back flat.
Design the lock, the easy part. Cutting all of the parts out of raw steel, the harder part. Most all of the Harbor-Freight files have been replaced because of extreme usage.
The barrel as plugged and nipple installed.
Action mounted, with 8-32 button head screw just under the hammer.
Rear mounting screw goes through the tang (hole not shown) into the top portion of the hammer spring tapped hole. This arrangement puts the stock in a nice vise like grip. Front of barrel is pinned to the stock.
Full cock. This lock has a teeter-totter sear. Since this was installed the sear was too soft. Another sear was made today (Mar/4/2015) out of a portion of old slip-joint pliers. Really tough stuff. It works much better now. This picture shows the original hammer spring which did fail just behind the mounting screw. Another spring has replaced this one and looks the same.
Front sight is a small tube on top of a blade, rear sight is made up of broken pieces soldered together with an adjustment screw for elevation.
On the other side (not shown) is a stock notch so that a percussion cap can be installed from the side.
A brass plate has been added to the flat on the front of the stock to hide the end grain. No butt plate as yet.
Mar/05/2015
Range Report, .490 RB, blue tick patch, 25 yds, 70 gr of Goex Clear Shot FFFg. The Goex kept shooting low so I changed to 777 FFFg 70 gr and shot the high hit at the bottom right diamond, no other changes. Quite a bit difference in powders. Lowered the rear sight and continued shooting the next three above that small diamond.
Then shot this small group on another target with 777 FFFg 70 gr. I will try a .495 RB as the .490 RB's seem to go down the barrel very easy, can short start with thumb pressure. Maybe then the groups will tighten up some.
Mar/06/2015
A possible solution to needing .495 round balls.
Simulated golf balls in lead made from .490 round balls.
I had an old wood rasp that was sanded down to obtain flat teeth, I used that tool.
With the ball on a hard surface, rasp on top, letting the ball roll with the rasp multiple times and multiple directions. I get these ugly puppies and they are nestled in a towel inside of a repurposed Altoids tin:
They do measure .495 to .498 depending on the position measured. Since I only did 18 each (not wanting to go crazy and do 100 to find out that this does not work) they will have to be tried at the range.
Range Report, Mar/13/2015
25 yds, Goex Clear Shot FFFg 70 grs, Blue Tick Patch, Those fuzzy RB's above. It did seem to tighten up the groups, YAY! Now for some real .495 RB's since I only made 18 of those fuzzy ones.
Now What?
Fuzzy utube video
May/24/2015
Shot this target with real Goex FFFg.
25 yds, 50gr of FFFg, .495 RB, 0.15 patch lubed with bore-butter.
Today, Nov/16/2015
I was working on this rifle when the hammer spring broke just past it's mounting screw. So, off to the "shop" to make another one.
The new spring, from a old handsaw blade.
Also tried some blueing on the partly browned barrel, it turned it black, looks nice.
Beginning to learn to carve Cherry, a bit soft.
2/26/2017
Range Report
25 yds, Goex FFFg 40gr, .490RB, Bull Denim Patch (0.022"), 5 shots.
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I thought you'd get a kick out this design.
The .50 caliber barrel as purchased at an Oregon gun show (PDX) $80 OTD, no plug, no sights.
Trying to find all of the parts to recreate an original, made the decision to make it into an underhammer, was quite easy.
Rear mounting screw goes through the tang (hole not shown) into the top portion of the hammer spring tapped hole. This arrangement puts the stock in a nice vise like grip. Front of barrel is pinned to the stock.
On the other side (not shown) is a stock notch so that a percussion cap can be installed from the side.
A brass plate has been added to the flat on the front of the stock to hide the end grain. No butt plate as yet.
Mar/05/2015
Range Report, .490 RB, blue tick patch, 25 yds, 70 gr of Goex Clear Shot FFFg. The Goex kept shooting low so I changed to 777 FFFg 70 gr and shot the high hit at the bottom right diamond, no other changes. Quite a bit difference in powders. Lowered the rear sight and continued shooting the next three above that small diamond.
Mar/06/2015
A possible solution to needing .495 round balls.
Simulated golf balls in lead made from .490 round balls.
I had an old wood rasp that was sanded down to obtain flat teeth, I used that tool.
With the ball on a hard surface, rasp on top, letting the ball roll with the rasp multiple times and multiple directions. I get these ugly puppies and they are nestled in a towel inside of a repurposed Altoids tin:
Range Report, Mar/13/2015
Now What?
Fuzzy utube video
May/24/2015
Shot this target with real Goex FFFg.
25 yds, 50gr of FFFg, .495 RB, 0.15 patch lubed with bore-butter.
Today, Nov/16/2015
I was working on this rifle when the hammer spring broke just past it's mounting screw. So, off to the "shop" to make another one.
The new spring, from a old handsaw blade.
Also tried some blueing on the partly browned barrel, it turned it black, looks nice.
Beginning to learn to carve Cherry, a bit soft.
2/26/2017
Range Report
25 yds, Goex FFFg 40gr, .490RB, Bull Denim Patch (0.022"), 5 shots.
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Thursday, February 19, 2015
Muley Pocket .36 cal
Here is a small pistol made using an internally pitted reproduction 1862 .36 cal Navy barrel scrap
Barrel is approximately 3 and 1/8 inches long.
Nipple is from a pepper-box kit gun.
Frame is 1/2 inch steel tubing.
All the rest is hand made.
Hammer and trigger are 3/16 inch thick steel stock.
Inch ruler in picture.
Assembled without the hammer spring.
Barrel plug is 1/2 x 20 bolt filed down at the back to fit inside of the frame.
Hammer spring from old hand saw blade. Maple grip. There is an 8-32 bolt through the grip, through a hole in the hammer spring and into a threaded steel block inside of the frame. This block is pinned with that small 3/32 inch brass pin seen just behind the trigger.
Top view. The dovetail is from a revolver loading lever boss, now in a box somewhere. 6-48 screw on top is to adjust the trigger engagement and forward movement of same.
This picture shows how small it actually is.
Popped a cap.
Polished frame, finished grip. It looks weird but it fits my right hand. Brass filler in place of the front sight dovetail.
Mar/05/2015
Range Report, ignore the blue groups.
This pistol is the red groups.
11 yds, 15gr of 777 FFFg, red ticking patch, .350 RB.
I shot 8 shots, first one is nowhere to be seen, one is somewhere in the middle that was obliterated.
Range Report, ignore the blue groups.
This pistol is the red groups.
11 yds, 15gr of 777 FFFg, red ticking patch, .350 RB.
I shot 8 shots, first one is nowhere to be seen, one is somewhere in the middle that was obliterated.
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Friday, January 16, 2015
Muley 12ga
A start of a Muley 12ga muzzleloading shotgun
Some parts, no stock yet.
Barrel plug is M20x2.5
Action popped a cap.
Barrel needs pinning to frame.
Hammer shortened.
Frame horns riveted with two each 3/16 inch rivets.
Frame horns are soldered first then riveted, makes drilling rivet holes easier.
Jan/17/2015
Ready for a stock.
Maybe a thumb-hole type.(Nah!)
Barrel pinned with 8-32 button head screw.
Jan/20/2015
The start of a Cherry wood stock.
It is mounted but needs a LOT of wood removal!
3 inch (7.62 cm) drop, 1/4 inch (6.35 mm) offset, 17-1/2 inch (44.45 cm) pull.
With a tethered half-cock block.
I have since added a brass bead for a front sight and a very small notched blade for a rear sight.
I will be shooting these: Thug-Slugs.
The stock will be further refined after the first time at the range. This will give me opportunity to see how it all works as it is currently constructed.
Jan/22/2015
Trigger guard started, mild steel.
Not sure how to attach it and still remove stock mounting screw, such is life.
Jan/23/2015
Trigger guard mounted.
One screw 6-32 US, one brass pin 3/32 inch, pin soldered to guard and fits into hole in frame.
Hammer pin was shortened a bit.
How it looks now.
I wanted the finger grip moved forward a bit, the reason for the trigger guard gap at the rear.
Hammer spur and soft-soldered rear sight. (Now MIA)
A better lock view.
Mar/22/2015 Sunday
Removed the rear sight, blued the barrel.
Took it to the range and shot some of these slugs:
Dangerous Game Slugs
Thug Slugs
They make really big holes!
Used a 12ga bore mop and alcohol between shots to keep the bore clean.
April/01/2015
Got to shoot this one today. 65 grains 777-FFg, 65 grains of #6 shot. At 25 yards it patterns solidly at about 18 inches wide. A sample of how the patterning looks, ignore the patches as this is a re-used target.
Apr/29/2016
Decided to make some shot filled paper packets. Used brown paper bag material. Formed the packets over a tapered dowel then glued. Filled with 62gr of #6 shot and folded the top down not glued.. One or two full packets went through the target (not shown) and messed up the target frame. Started with 50 gr of FFg Goex, large pre-conditioned cushion wad then the packet. I still used a overshot card, nicked the edge to allow traped air out during ramming.
Before.
After.
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Some parts, no stock yet.
Barrel plug is M20x2.5
Action popped a cap.
Barrel needs pinning to frame.
Hammer shortened.
Frame horns riveted with two each 3/16 inch rivets.
Frame horns are soldered first then riveted, makes drilling rivet holes easier.
Jan/17/2015
Ready for a stock.
Maybe a thumb-hole type.(Nah!)
Barrel pinned with 8-32 button head screw.
Jan/20/2015
The start of a Cherry wood stock.
It is mounted but needs a LOT of wood removal!
3 inch (7.62 cm) drop, 1/4 inch (6.35 mm) offset, 17-1/2 inch (44.45 cm) pull.
With a tethered half-cock block.
I have since added a brass bead for a front sight and a very small notched blade for a rear sight.
I will be shooting these: Thug-Slugs.
The stock will be further refined after the first time at the range. This will give me opportunity to see how it all works as it is currently constructed.
Jan/22/2015
Trigger guard started, mild steel.
Not sure how to attach it and still remove stock mounting screw, such is life.
Jan/23/2015
Trigger guard mounted.
One screw 6-32 US, one brass pin 3/32 inch, pin soldered to guard and fits into hole in frame.
Hammer pin was shortened a bit.
How it looks now.
I wanted the finger grip moved forward a bit, the reason for the trigger guard gap at the rear.
Hammer spur and soft-soldered rear sight. (Now MIA)
Mar/22/2015 Sunday
Removed the rear sight, blued the barrel.
Took it to the range and shot some of these slugs:
Dangerous Game Slugs
Thug Slugs
They make really big holes!
Used a 12ga bore mop and alcohol between shots to keep the bore clean.
April/01/2015
Got to shoot this one today. 65 grains 777-FFg, 65 grains of #6 shot. At 25 yards it patterns solidly at about 18 inches wide. A sample of how the patterning looks, ignore the patches as this is a re-used target.
Apr/29/2016
Decided to make some shot filled paper packets. Used brown paper bag material. Formed the packets over a tapered dowel then glued. Filled with 62gr of #6 shot and folded the top down not glued.. One or two full packets went through the target (not shown) and messed up the target frame. Started with 50 gr of FFg Goex, large pre-conditioned cushion wad then the packet. I still used a overshot card, nicked the edge to allow traped air out during ramming.
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